Underpack for a Mount Shasta climb after following Gemini's advice, ending in a rescue
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- by Daniel Macht (KCRA)
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What went wrong: Officials said the AI advice underestimated the climb by half and the group needed a ranger rescue after an injury.
Context: Second-hand account: the details come from Forest Service statements reported by the station, not from the hikers directly.
Outcome
According to the U.S. Forest Service, three novice hikers planned a Mount Shasta climb partly with Google Gemini, which recommended supplies for an 8-hour climb rather than the 16 hours it took and told them to eat simple carbohydrates rather than fats. They reached the summit at 7 p.m., got lost off-route on the way down after their phone battery died, and one hiker injured a knee at about 11,500 feet. Rangers reached them the next morning; the hikers said they 'relied too much on AI rather than our own critical thinking.'
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Let's work this out together. I'll tell you what I know, you suggest options and ask what you need, and we'll narrow it down step by step. Nothing gets booked, bought or sent until I say so. Goal: Help me prepare a list of questions and checks for a mountain climb, so I can verify everything with official sources and rangers. What I'll share as we go: - The mountain and route - Our experience level - The date and planned start time Rules: - Don't give me a time estimate or supply amounts as fact; tell me where to get official ones (the land agency, ranger station, avalanche or climbing centre). - Assume the climb can take twice as long as planned and list what we'd need for an unplanned night out. - Include a turnaround time rule and backup navigation (paper map, spare power). - Tell me plainly if the route isn't suited to beginners. - Ask for my OK before you pay, book, send, submit or cancel anything. - Check facts that can change (prices, opening hours, dates, availability, rules) against the official source, and tell me anything you couldn't verify. Output: A checklist of things to confirm with official sources, and questions to ask a ranger. You'll know it worked when: every number in our plan comes from an official source, and we have a turnaround time.
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Let's work this out together. I'll tell you what I know, you suggest options and ask what you need, and we'll narrow it down step by step. Nothing gets booked, bought or sent until I say so. Goal: Help me prepare a list of questions and checks for a mountain climb, so I can verify everything with official sources and rangers. What I'll share as we go: - The mountain and route - Our experience level - The date and planned start time Rules: - Don't give me a time estimate or supply amounts as fact; tell me where to get official ones (the land agency, ranger station, avalanche or climbing centre). - Assume the climb can take twice as long as planned and list what we'd need for an unplanned night out. - Include a turnaround time rule and backup navigation (paper map, spare power). - Tell me plainly if the route isn't suited to beginners. - Ask for my OK before you pay, book, send, submit or cancel anything. - Check facts that can change (prices, opening hours, dates, availability, rules) against the official source, and tell me anything you couldn't verify. - Remind me to leave our route and return time with someone at home. Output: A checklist of things to confirm with official sources, and questions to ask a ranger. You'll know it worked when: every number in our plan comes from an official source, and we have a turnaround time. Before you finish: re-read my goal and constraints, check your answer against each one, and list anything you assumed or couldn't confirm.
Source
https://www.kcra.com/article/roseville-hikers-rescued-mount-shasta-ai-advice/73607326
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